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Helmets
Not sure if this is the right place for this topic but I am after some advice on helmets. I am thinking of going to Curborough with my wife and I have looked on the web for helmets but I have not a clue what to get. I do not want to pay a lot so is second hand the best way to go?
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
Hi, it very much depends upon what you intend on doing, if it is just track days and the introduction to sprinting that LDC run then as far as I know any crash helmet will do ie motorcycle helmet or race car helmet, If it is your intention to get into motorsport then I would check the MSA website www.msauk.org I believe that the competitors rule book is on the site, if you look at section C competitor safety it lists the specifications that the helmet has to have, be careful though as I believe that certain standards could soon be withdrawn. you could also try www.hedtec.co.uk they do budget motorsport helmets.
Regards Dan
Regards Dan
eclat22- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Dunstable
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Re: Helmets
It would be just for track days, so a motorcycle helmet would do?
Thanks
Thanks
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
But don't buy 2nd Hand!
Could've been worn by a greasy Rocker with Nits & Fleas
But seriously, always go for new you just don't know what sort of mistreatment a used Bone Dome has been subjected to.
You may need it to save your Life one Day, not just to "comply with the Reg's".
John
Could've been worn by a greasy Rocker with Nits & Fleas
But seriously, always go for new you just don't know what sort of mistreatment a used Bone Dome has been subjected to.
You may need it to save your Life one Day, not just to "comply with the Reg's".
John
GrumpyBodger- The phantom thread killer
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Location : Dachau, Germany
Registration date : 2008-09-06
Re: Helmets
Hear hear John....I agree - don't compromise - it may save your life. I got mine from Demon Tweeks, although I think there might be a helmet supplier at Silverstone .
Tim.
Tim.
TimS- Chicane Magazine Editor
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Location : Warwickshire
Registration date : 2008-07-24
Re: Helmets
Don't scrimp on a helmet and look after it properly. For 2010 the MSA approves the following standards, (usually found on a label inside the lining)
FIA 8860-2004.
SNELL SA2005.
SNELL SA2000*.
SFI Foundation 31.1A, 31.2A.
BS 6658 Type A/FR.
However, if you are buying new make sure you go for the latest possible standard (e.g SNELL 2005 rather than 2000) as it will have a longer (approved) life assuming it remains in good condition. There will be SNELL 2010 standard released later this year that is likely to be approved for the next 10 years....
However, if you are 'only' doing track days then no particular standard applies but youhead will still take the same sort of crack as it would in a race if something goes wrong so, best advice is - don't compromise.
FIA 8860-2004.
SNELL SA2005.
SNELL SA2000*.
SFI Foundation 31.1A, 31.2A.
BS 6658 Type A/FR.
However, if you are buying new make sure you go for the latest possible standard (e.g SNELL 2005 rather than 2000) as it will have a longer (approved) life assuming it remains in good condition. There will be SNELL 2010 standard released later this year that is likely to be approved for the next 10 years....
However, if you are 'only' doing track days then no particular standard applies but youhead will still take the same sort of crack as it would in a race if something goes wrong so, best advice is - don't compromise.
the83man- Lotus Drivers Club Chairman
- Number of posts : 170
Location : Kineton, Warwickshire
Registration date : 2008-10-08
Re: Helmets
Also, unless you also intend using a "Hans Device" (unlikely unless you're racing), don't buy a helmet with the "Hans Posts" already fitted - that definately means that the helmet is deemed to be for leisure purposes & therefore subject to VAT. On the other hand, helmets which are deemed to be "safety items" (eg motorcyclist helmets, & many car helmets) are usually exempt from VAT.
Most circuits will require you to wear a full face helmet, if you're in an open top car too.
Most circuits will require you to wear a full face helmet, if you're in an open top car too.
Pesky- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Registration date : 2008-07-30
Re: Helmets
Thanks for the advice, I have not picked up the car yet so I am jumping the gun a bit and if I suggest to the wife spending any more money I may get lynched. I am going to the Malvern show so I will take a look around then. By the way I joined the club last night so I may see some of you around.
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
Shuffty wrote:Thanks for the advice, I have not picked up the car yet so I am jumping the gun a bit and if I suggest to the wife spending any more money I may get lynched. I am going to the Malvern show so I will take a look around then. By the way I joined the club last night so I may see some of you around.
Cheers
Mark
Welcome to the club .
Come and see us at the stand .
Eddie King.
A7ESK- Midlands Area Meet Coordinator
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Location : Kenilworth
Registration date : 2008-07-18
Re: Helmets
I think I've met you already at Sliverstone last Saturday (Silver BMW)?
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
Welcome Shuffty.
I echo what everyone else has said on helmets, all good advice. However, you could just borrow one from a mate for the day. The Curborough meet is low key and as such we don't dictate the latest standards etc, juts something that fits correctly and makes you safe. Obviously if you then go on to do lots of trackdays or even to compete then getting your own helmet to the correct spec is the way to go.
You didn't say what car you are picking up, is it an Elise?
Kim
I echo what everyone else has said on helmets, all good advice. However, you could just borrow one from a mate for the day. The Curborough meet is low key and as such we don't dictate the latest standards etc, juts something that fits correctly and makes you safe. Obviously if you then go on to do lots of trackdays or even to compete then getting your own helmet to the correct spec is the way to go.
You didn't say what car you are picking up, is it an Elise?
Kim
Atthelimit- East Midlands Area Meet Coordinator
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Location : Leicestershire
Registration date : 2008-08-08
Re: Helmets
Yes it's an Elise 111R 2006 but it's the wife's really. We pick it up on Saturday.
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
You will have to be a very good boy from now on then so that your wife lets you drive it. Just think of all that washing up and ironing your going to have to do!
LOL
LOL
Atthelimit- East Midlands Area Meet Coordinator
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Location : Leicestershire
Registration date : 2008-08-08
Re: Helmets
yes that's correct how was the magazine .Shuffty wrote:I think I've met you already at Sliverstone last Saturday (Silver BMW)?
Eddie
A7ESK- Midlands Area Meet Coordinator
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Location : Kenilworth
Registration date : 2008-07-18
Re: Helmets
Good , got it by my side now.
Shuffty- Lotus Drivers Club Member
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Location : Birmingham
Registration date : 2010-03-22
Re: Helmets
Try a number of helmets on before you buy as they do vary quite a lot. It has to feel very snug to be most effective. Buy the best you can afford. I always wear a balaclava with mine as that keeps it fresher and reduces the amount of cleaning. Use a specific helmet cleaner... the one I use is only £3 and lasts ages.
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